Senator Bob Casey yes I want senator senator Casey what the heck is going on. And I did -- it's good to have them so much for me. -- my much perspective this morning and ended yesterday afternoon it was the yesterday there was sound. There was pretty good because. -- -- said he isn't it and look like anything is moving. I was when Roddick wasn't any it was a chaotic it was house senate after you've gone as well the senate it was working in the house kind of thing interjected and then went oh nevermind. The middle and dad and -- -- them to so addition. Began to work here and Pakistan doesn't mean it's probably six or seven hours. And it seems -- and it happened in the senate and a little after ten minutes shut down I was in the chair. Helping out someone who is pretty much different than they the first yourself and your senators there is help from the Mossad and I'm close plus planet -- listen to you this morning will be an agreement and then. That the key to this is not just -- agreement and in the process from the senate which is complicated you have to move quickly. But just to. Not just consists of us and -- -- some substance that's actually worked on the procedure. So what does the deal look I write a note on the nuts and bolts do we know exactly what's contained in this is that this latest iteration. We don't know for sure is that bin Laden and yet I think it'll be very similar to what -- totally different and the other day meaning that you. -- -- -- -- -- I didn't place most spending. Plan in place I don't intend to be around the first of the year but not to sit in the near future isn't so -- 141000. So that's -- first. And then and now and then -- a lot of work and then negotiate things I want to budget. You know -- it's just be short term and maybe just maybe -- agreements on the on the modern term changes this. He held up today I mean he's we're hearing that could does senator Ted Cruz belabor this process. Sure. There's there's no question about that and hasn't yesterday he was so. He another percent every -- weren't they want to indicate one way or the other. Had a decision of this stakes and the consequence is now a much greater than Daytona. The government shut down and so shut down he's done for the country and it's it's it's an economic impact or any. -- just getting close to default or indeed where it is yeah economic damage from coming coming coming so close to the deadline. I would simply knowing US senator no amount of the house and no leader of either going to be their body would. Put up an agreement with troll. That there bullies and making sure that we don't default and distrust of the full faith and credit of the United States. You're -- calm guy senator Casey to get mad because there's a lot of people out here for getting real mad watching that house. Boo -- -- and I've been curious about the fervor for weeks but sometimes says the yelling and screaming down here dozens -- make the ball. Move very fast shifts -- you gotta figure a way to get to the goal. And the -- Is -- don't default under any. Circumstances. At certain things in this still I would like I want the medical -- but it is creepy -- I'm probably not gonna -- that unless something dramatic happens. And I can get in this still like to do a lot of things and and write this I'm I'm not gonna take steps that some has taken. To shut the government down and come close to a default the only admitted only good news and heard. None in them in the tip to wing of the Republican Party and I would say even though. -- -- to play anyway because even you have the people Republicans against this. -- down -- strategy behind it going good dessert yesterday was one of them. Yes it is. Well producing around to shut the government down again if -- -- some good news around. But the house you know -- decay it couldn't seem to agree at all yesterday there are some indications that they might have to be the Democrats with. Just a handful of Republicans in the house to try to push this through because I don't think they can get it all together in the. The only way and this whole work in terms of -- sensitivity -- speaker there have long last is gonna have to sit and look. We can't. Dreams and -- very -- yesterday so fuel. Lift up his hands and say okay and most Democrats if you wanna vote for us and generally don't want some more front and no doubt the when that happens. There will be -- up front surpassed. Technically can't miss thing get done it in both how in the house in in the senate by the deadline. I am I'm told -- people who know more about senate procedure and house procedure and I do that it can be done but. It's going to be very cold so motivator and it requires. Almost total. Position on the procedural mechanisms. Corporation and simple hearted corporation assembled artist and you know you mentioned. Senator crewmen and that it in the senate once senator can hold the bill from from being and I hope. Then in this instance that he wouldn't do that because. They need you know -- -- full faith and the United States of America. One protection -- if it just doesn't go well. -- could have an adverse impact and in job numbers could to. Ten million jobs well let's say that prediction was half wrong we can't afford. Another recession -- -- thinks and then called to that eventually have to get it done today. Yeah and you know it again if all the tees and across all the -- and undaunted by midnight tonight but if it's in the pipeline and on its way do you think. I mean perception is huge with the market obviously do you think there's an adverse effect because it it doesn't meet that deadline of midnight thinks or do you think if it's already on the move. That would be sufficient and they know as it happens tomorrow or Friday. That there's really -- story about in terms of the market's reaction. Fight to get the procedural -- play as fair and I think -- -- you know it'll be really cold so I think. I think will be able to get even though. And the -- crushed by any. But midnight but that did this even coming close to the -- -- have incentives for months. Is that easy getting close you have an adverse impact and we took it. In twelve -- consumer confidence some holes to think because people walk around Washington saying no it doesn't matter if you default by a couple and so. And you know that day. It doesn't have does that kind of adverse side impact I want may have some academic theory be proven -- -- -- -- -- You cannot hold the you know the mostly from falling and -- -- over the question did it it's -- and Paula question just how far it goes and we cannot afford another recession we can afford them. And depression but even so he's just on the shot down when he has shut down to default that's exactly. And Politico is reporting that there's no plan B that the president doesn't have a plan B if if let's just say the worst happens and not thinking get true. What do we do. President of either party would would try and in some extraordinary. Step but the problem is. The law and I think in the administration and another -- do -- and academic dispute about this have included that he can't wait to get selling -- wrong. And that is at the fourteenth amendment thing that we thought I heard about there are people who say would he have to do in the last minute scenario to save. You know if there is some kind of economic calamity that is fast approaching would -- when he pulled that out and you said. -- and at risk you know being impeached story you know something else for that. I think yeah I think CNN to president would prefer to be able to do that but I think he's he concluded legally can't help. Do we sit up to the congress and I won't we will we shoot a million in addition to getting a budget in place and listen to sequester. Halloween -- places say you have a better system for dealing -- Says this. In -- -- how to how do we ever get a better system other than voting. In people that don't do stuff like us. -- is -- -- another guy I said that I know people like -- does that sound partisan but I think. It is different really academic point of view you you can be a partisan Republican or Democrat and still conclude the following. This sort of deportation time and we just have to make sure it doesn't -- -- Tea Party default. And it -- and the proof of that is just the reaction of Republicans and nearly did -- shut down. Where they said the -- as strategy we shouldn't be shut the government down on any issue. Many Democrats who oppose the Iraq War won the warrant. Willing to shut the government down and -- -- shut the government down about a war how can your -- be in favor Russia and the government down about a debate about drastic that. We have to figure a way to have to make their health care. Long worked so -- to bring people together to solve these problems. Since people who. To come together to focus on what really built a country which is. The middle class sit in the last decade or more has been hit it in ways that no middle class in American history have been -- Because we've got to get to -- ways to create jobs. Strategy is to get to actually form and placed. And and better strategy refer refer kids I mean. -- we have among the worst child -- in infant mortality rates in the world. And well you know -- and not doing enough about that so we don't focus on the real means of cases and and of the middle class and the economy and that all the time wasted all this time and shut down -- -- these these two wacky debates about economics Syrians to. Working on the real problems of from the country. How how optimistic are you about getting this thing averted. I met him that much or more optimistic than than yesterday. And that's only because it is several leaders within minutes literally meant so browse. Assists holding an imminent announcement that within minutes around apartment and then working so that presents an even two guys that don't. They don't really like each other while they don't -- -- I don't I don't know if that's. I just don't look like he does know investors don't look like each other because they're working so closely guess I. Well that's true but I do know -- they don't hang out together than ever co -- -- and then a lot of tension between them but. Look at who the leaders -- estimated democrats' decision moments figure a way to put aside aside differences. And and work together. OK well hopefully we're talking about how this has been averted but we'll keep in touch us senator Bob Casey thanks for being with us. -- Redman her anything.